I am very grateful for being able to study the Bahai faith. It just makes me more and more sure that this faith really is of the Devil. I apologise to my Bahai brother who may be reading this, as this will appear to be an insult. It's not. I am observing and giving my opinion. I discover
there are in fact several Baha'i sects: Orthodox Baha'i Faith, Baha'is under the Provision of the Covenant, The Remey Society, Baha'is Loyal to the Fourth Guardian.
I found a Bahai from India who is fairly high up and loyal to the true cause of Bahais and he says: "The true Bahá'ís are those who are under the Shelter of the Guardian. The deviated sects are those who have turned away from the true Guardian. It is my fervent hope that soon all the friends will turn unto the living guardian of the Faith and will be submissive unto him." Written by Dr. A. Parikh, Secretary of the National (Orthodox) Bahai Council of Indiaon 27th July 2007.
Christians know the devil will try to copy Christ, as his supreme enemy - where battles are being fought all around, though we don't see them all the time. Christ has the victory - we know this from the book of Revelation. And the ultimate act here is that the Devil is claiming to be Christ (as a manifestation only, not ordination of course (denied by the Bahai faith)) and is even saying he is the father - to copy Christ's father!
The Baha’i thrust toward the unification of all religions is primed for failure, because it is evil. And, people, good people, even the writings of Baha u llah, seem 'good' on the surface... But Islam, the mother religion of Baha’i would not and could not consider Bahá’u’lláh as a prophet of God greater than Muhammad. Likewise, Christianity is committed to Christ as “the way and the truth and the life” (John 14:6, emphasis added; cf. Acts 4:12).
Former Bahais express their opinions thus:
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/andorra/514/
i very much feel for all those people who dream for the truth of these words from Boykin:
"National rivalries, hatreds, and intrigues will cease, and racial animosity and prejudice will be replaced by racial amity, understanding and cooperation. The causes of religious strife will be permanently removed, economic barriers and restrictions will be completely abolished, and the inordinate distinction between classes will be obliterated. Destitution on the one hand, and gross accumulation of ownership on the other, will disappear."from Boykin, "The Baha'i Faith,"
Where can my brother's hope be? Can he not reconsider? Can He not let go into Christ - pray to Christ, the ROCK of ages (that is AGES plural!)? Can he not see what is going on around him - things are not getting better in this world, they are getting worse. We have more wars than ever - kingdom agains kingdom; nation against nation.. I have hope in Christ as being my personal saviour. His spirit in me gives me sureity from Heaven. I died to live for Him, and I have this beautiful priviledge as His servant. I give Him the glory. I worship Him in thankfullness. He is my friend AND king. One day He will return. Jesus is All man and all God. He came to Earth, died and ROSE AGAIN to come down and fill our hearts with His Spirit. Everyone who believes in him.
Christianity does not depend on an organisational, government system that tries to be set up on Earth. It is just daft! -TOTALLY.
I will learn more..... May Jesus protect and lift you up, the reader, up to know Him. He is our light and our salvation. From whom shall we fear. He protects us from ALL danger.
Tuesday, 30 June 2009
Saturday, 27 June 2009
Examine the Bible prophesies - and know the real faith, not the great faith!
I mentioned the Bahai faith is dangerous - and my Christian fellow states it clearly and consicely: "Bahá'u'lláh teachings are for peace and unity of families, nations and the entire world. Bahá'u'lláh has revealed, in over 100 books, the message of God for the NEW WORLD ORDER." (the Return of Christ p.8)
There is a great deception coming (2 Thess.2). And he will fulfill in himself all that Bahá'í claims to look for in religions. He will be the great synthesizer appearing tolerant to all. It appears that the Bahá'í religion is helping pave the way for many who will come as Bahá'u'lláh did, except they will exhibit all power in signs and wonders, something that will be hard to refute without heeding Christ's warning and having him as the standard.
As Jesus said, another will come in his own name, him you will receive! The Bahá'í's are more than willing to do this themselves and they want to convince everyone else to do the same. John the Baptist paved the way for the Christ, they are paving the way for the one we know who will take the place of Christ, the false messiah. Your decision needs to be made now before you don't have a choice. Examine Christ's claims and look at what he said the end of time would be like, you may be spiritually surprised." Amen We have to remember the bible is not just a string of pearls but links in a chain (quote by John Piper, I seem to remember!)
There is a great deception coming (2 Thess.2). And he will fulfill in himself all that Bahá'í claims to look for in religions. He will be the great synthesizer appearing tolerant to all. It appears that the Bahá'í religion is helping pave the way for many who will come as Bahá'u'lláh did, except they will exhibit all power in signs and wonders, something that will be hard to refute without heeding Christ's warning and having him as the standard.
As Jesus said, another will come in his own name, him you will receive! The Bahá'í's are more than willing to do this themselves and they want to convince everyone else to do the same. John the Baptist paved the way for the Christ, they are paving the way for the one we know who will take the place of Christ, the false messiah. Your decision needs to be made now before you don't have a choice. Examine Christ's claims and look at what he said the end of time would be like, you may be spiritually surprised." Amen We have to remember the bible is not just a string of pearls but links in a chain (quote by John Piper, I seem to remember!)
Rock of Ages
20 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power.
Yes, us verbal diarrhoea people gifted with words must remember this! Paul was well educated, but he put all his education behind him, ditched it and prophesed to know nothing - "while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him cruicified (1 Cor 2;v1)" This is where we can be in our daily lives, alone with Christ, in communion and prayer. Hearing His words, not ours. He is calling you. Now. But this won't last forever; his invitation will cease; one day. And it will be too late.
Father I pray, the glory be Yours. may I be your servant, humbled in your presence. How can it be, you wanted me, a sinner and so stupid and a fool. i am nothing, but with you, your power lives in me and is moving mountains. I believe in Jesus Christ. My heart is lifted up and I am sanctified by His grace and mercy. You are my rock and my redeemer. "Come, follow me, and I will make you fishers of men." he said (Mark 1 v17).
Yes, us verbal diarrhoea people gifted with words must remember this! Paul was well educated, but he put all his education behind him, ditched it and prophesed to know nothing - "while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him cruicified (1 Cor 2;v1)" This is where we can be in our daily lives, alone with Christ, in communion and prayer. Hearing His words, not ours. He is calling you. Now. But this won't last forever; his invitation will cease; one day. And it will be too late.
Father I pray, the glory be Yours. may I be your servant, humbled in your presence. How can it be, you wanted me, a sinner and so stupid and a fool. i am nothing, but with you, your power lives in me and is moving mountains. I believe in Jesus Christ. My heart is lifted up and I am sanctified by His grace and mercy. You are my rock and my redeemer. "Come, follow me, and I will make you fishers of men." he said (Mark 1 v17).
WHO IS SAYING WHAT - literally or figuratively - or spiritually??
Just gotta copy this: Follow the link, by clicking the title. This is so well written - easy to understand - better than babble I do sometimes! I copy this with Christ's love, if it be His will. Oh Lord, I thank you for your word. Your true word.
BAHA'IS AND BIBLICAL PROPHECY
The Baha'is claim that Baha'u'llah is the fulfillment of the biblical prophecies of the return of Christ.9 Taken literally, of course, the biblical prophecies of Christ's return do not fit Baha'u'llah. The Bible speaks of Jesus Himself returning in the skies before the entire world in a cataclysmic fashion to judge the living and the dead (e.g., Matt. 24). By contrast, Baha'is recognized as the "Christ" another person (Baha'u'llah) who came into the world in relative obscurity through natural means (i.e., conception and birth).10How, then, can the Baha'is claim that Bah'u'llah fulfills the biblical prophecies of Christ's return? They can do this only by insisting that the literal meaning is to be ignored. According to Baha'i doctrine, Jesus' description of His second coming in the Bible should be understood spiritually rather than literally. That is, the text of the Bible is said to have some symbolic meaning which is contrary to the ordinary meaning of the words used.
Literal and Symbolic
The Baha'is do not, however, follow this line of interpretation consistently in their reading of the Bible. Whenever they find a biblical passage that clearly states that Jesus will return at the end of the world in a way contrary to Baha'u'llah's arrival, the Baha'is simply assert that we should not take that passage literally. No reason for this assertion is ever produced from the text of the Bible itself. However, on other occasions where a literal interpretation might seem to the Baha'is to support their views (e.g., Dan. 8:13-17),11 they do not consider interpreting the passage nonliterally.This sort of clip-and-paste view of biblical interpretation proves very little. After all, by the same rationale one could "prove" that any number of different individuals was Christ returned. Accepting as literal only those texts which seem to fit one's doctrinal views while pleading for a nonliteral interpretation for passages which contradict one's position is a favorite tactic of pseudo-Christian groups. For example, this interpretive technique is employed by the Unification Church to show that Sun Myung Moon is the Messiah.12With this method of interpreting biblical prophecy Baha'is employ circular reasoning (in which the arguer assumes what he or she is trying to prove). Because the Baha'i accepts Baha'u'llah's claim to fulfill Christ's second coming, he (or she) thinks he is justified in interpreting biblical prophecies symbolically which, if taken literally, would disprove Baha'u'llah's claim, but if taken nonliterally can be used to prove it.13 Thus, probably without even realizing it, the Baha'i is assuming the very point that he is trying to prove in his citing of biblical prophecy.
BAHA'IS AND BIBLICAL PROPHECY
The Baha'is claim that Baha'u'llah is the fulfillment of the biblical prophecies of the return of Christ.9 Taken literally, of course, the biblical prophecies of Christ's return do not fit Baha'u'llah. The Bible speaks of Jesus Himself returning in the skies before the entire world in a cataclysmic fashion to judge the living and the dead (e.g., Matt. 24). By contrast, Baha'is recognized as the "Christ" another person (Baha'u'llah) who came into the world in relative obscurity through natural means (i.e., conception and birth).10How, then, can the Baha'is claim that Bah'u'llah fulfills the biblical prophecies of Christ's return? They can do this only by insisting that the literal meaning is to be ignored. According to Baha'i doctrine, Jesus' description of His second coming in the Bible should be understood spiritually rather than literally. That is, the text of the Bible is said to have some symbolic meaning which is contrary to the ordinary meaning of the words used.
Literal and Symbolic
The Baha'is do not, however, follow this line of interpretation consistently in their reading of the Bible. Whenever they find a biblical passage that clearly states that Jesus will return at the end of the world in a way contrary to Baha'u'llah's arrival, the Baha'is simply assert that we should not take that passage literally. No reason for this assertion is ever produced from the text of the Bible itself. However, on other occasions where a literal interpretation might seem to the Baha'is to support their views (e.g., Dan. 8:13-17),11 they do not consider interpreting the passage nonliterally.This sort of clip-and-paste view of biblical interpretation proves very little. After all, by the same rationale one could "prove" that any number of different individuals was Christ returned. Accepting as literal only those texts which seem to fit one's doctrinal views while pleading for a nonliteral interpretation for passages which contradict one's position is a favorite tactic of pseudo-Christian groups. For example, this interpretive technique is employed by the Unification Church to show that Sun Myung Moon is the Messiah.12With this method of interpreting biblical prophecy Baha'is employ circular reasoning (in which the arguer assumes what he or she is trying to prove). Because the Baha'i accepts Baha'u'llah's claim to fulfill Christ's second coming, he (or she) thinks he is justified in interpreting biblical prophecies symbolically which, if taken literally, would disprove Baha'u'llah's claim, but if taken nonliterally can be used to prove it.13 Thus, probably without even realizing it, the Baha'i is assuming the very point that he is trying to prove in his citing of biblical prophecy.
My brother does believe in a supremely false God DEATH IS SIN
The more I look into my bible, the greater I believe my responsibility is to try and set Bahai's free in Christ. WAKE UP!! I call. i pray. With all my heart. I know it is only Jesus who will set people free - what ever and where ever they come from. not my will, but Your will be done.
Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden were tempted and gave in. First, Eve, to a beautiful looking fruit. The serpant said to Eve: "You won't die, surely...", when God had said "if you touch this fruit, you will die." Death hadn't happened then. No thing died. DEATH IS SIN. There was NO SIN, but LIFE, and the LIVING, before this. So when Adam and Eve committed sin, by their own will, and not God's, they were done for. Not just them, but the entire human race to come. You and me. We are in sin. Unless we turn to the Lord, repent. Only then do we find freedom in Christ. We know it, whether we feel it or not, we just know and it is so strange to me that people can't see it unless they themselves have Christ's spirit in them. A supernatural happening, but it happened to me. All I can be is to be thank full and praise God, and do His will, not mine. I try to keep to his will, but don't because I am a decendent of Adam - the curse. But when I repent, truly repent, The Christ fills me again with his fountain of life and I can go on. it is a journey..hopefully I can open more and more each day to Christ. So, there is NO ROOM for any other God. Focus on Jesus. The devil will tempt us away, but we hold on with all our might ( with God's help) to the tri-une God. The one who was, is and is to come. The narrow straight path. God's son came to Earth and died to leave his spirit in those whom he has touched - He wants us all and He is a jelous God. He is the middle pillar. In the midst. In our midst. The devil or words from so called religous leaders of the Bahai faith will use Jesus's own words...."Seek and you shall find." Well let me tell you here, I am seeking and searching and The Lord leads me back to Him allways. That is His promise. You see, the devil knows the words of God. He is crafty - perhaps more crafty than He was in Adam and Eve's time. He has had time on Earth to think. He found and has found many people to do His work. They are blind, claiming to see, but they see not. Search for a relationship with Christ. Follow His word. Let Him teach you, show you His paths of righteousness and He will protect you from danger - including The Bahai Faith, because it is dangerous.
Ephesians. 1:19-22 "and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power, which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come. And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church." Christ was alive when the gospels were being written and He knew His word. If the devil does, then Christ will, right?
To quote:
"One God has given men one Faith through progressive revelations of His Will in each age of history and Bahá'u'lláh reveals the will of God for men and women of the present age. This basic belief enables Baha’i’s to unite and work together in spite of different religious backgrounds."( BAHAI PUBLISHING TRUST WILMETTE, ILLINOIS)
He (Bahá'u'lláh) sets forth a new principle for this day in the announcement that religion must be the cause of unity, harmony and agreement among mankind. If it be the cause of discord and hostility, if it leads to separation and creates conflict, the absence of religion would be preferable in the world."( Abdu'l-Bahá, Bahá'í World Faith: Selected Writings of Bahá'u'lláh and `Abdu'l-Bahá, Bahá'í Publishing Trust, 1976. p. 247.)
To quote a Christian friend (a true Christian friend) "It's hard to take someone seriously who wants to unite all religions and then says the one that is not cooperative with the others would be better off gone. Any one religion can be implemented as a unifying principle for mankind and we would have that harmony they seek, even if the religion was false. If all religions are from the same God and there are disagreements (of which there are many) than whose to say that one is to go. I wonder which one this would be? Who decides? I won't leave you guessing, the only ones that would not co-operate with this type of surrender into milk toast would be Christians. Why? Because we believe there is absolute truth and there is falsehood. If we stand to our convictions we can't compromise what Christ taught."
I could end here, but reading the leaders writing from the bahai faith to me, is just like being tempted to eat a beautiful looking fruit. Look at their words, sedducing, silky, it's all air, and poison. Jesus, the son, came back in the form of His spirit at pentacost. His saving, living spirit. When did Bahaullah 'live'. He ONLY died - DEATH IS SIN. Oh, and of course Bahaullah was BORN INTO SIN. Jesus, of course, was not because of How He came to Earth, through a virgin, Mary.
Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden were tempted and gave in. First, Eve, to a beautiful looking fruit. The serpant said to Eve: "You won't die, surely...", when God had said "if you touch this fruit, you will die." Death hadn't happened then. No thing died. DEATH IS SIN. There was NO SIN, but LIFE, and the LIVING, before this. So when Adam and Eve committed sin, by their own will, and not God's, they were done for. Not just them, but the entire human race to come. You and me. We are in sin. Unless we turn to the Lord, repent. Only then do we find freedom in Christ. We know it, whether we feel it or not, we just know and it is so strange to me that people can't see it unless they themselves have Christ's spirit in them. A supernatural happening, but it happened to me. All I can be is to be thank full and praise God, and do His will, not mine. I try to keep to his will, but don't because I am a decendent of Adam - the curse. But when I repent, truly repent, The Christ fills me again with his fountain of life and I can go on. it is a journey..hopefully I can open more and more each day to Christ. So, there is NO ROOM for any other God. Focus on Jesus. The devil will tempt us away, but we hold on with all our might ( with God's help) to the tri-une God. The one who was, is and is to come. The narrow straight path. God's son came to Earth and died to leave his spirit in those whom he has touched - He wants us all and He is a jelous God. He is the middle pillar. In the midst. In our midst. The devil or words from so called religous leaders of the Bahai faith will use Jesus's own words...."Seek and you shall find." Well let me tell you here, I am seeking and searching and The Lord leads me back to Him allways. That is His promise. You see, the devil knows the words of God. He is crafty - perhaps more crafty than He was in Adam and Eve's time. He has had time on Earth to think. He found and has found many people to do His work. They are blind, claiming to see, but they see not. Search for a relationship with Christ. Follow His word. Let Him teach you, show you His paths of righteousness and He will protect you from danger - including The Bahai Faith, because it is dangerous.
Ephesians. 1:19-22 "and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power, which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come. And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church." Christ was alive when the gospels were being written and He knew His word. If the devil does, then Christ will, right?
To quote:
"One God has given men one Faith through progressive revelations of His Will in each age of history and Bahá'u'lláh reveals the will of God for men and women of the present age. This basic belief enables Baha’i’s to unite and work together in spite of different religious backgrounds."( BAHAI PUBLISHING TRUST WILMETTE, ILLINOIS)
He (Bahá'u'lláh) sets forth a new principle for this day in the announcement that religion must be the cause of unity, harmony and agreement among mankind. If it be the cause of discord and hostility, if it leads to separation and creates conflict, the absence of religion would be preferable in the world."( Abdu'l-Bahá, Bahá'í World Faith: Selected Writings of Bahá'u'lláh and `Abdu'l-Bahá, Bahá'í Publishing Trust, 1976. p. 247.)
To quote a Christian friend (a true Christian friend) "It's hard to take someone seriously who wants to unite all religions and then says the one that is not cooperative with the others would be better off gone. Any one religion can be implemented as a unifying principle for mankind and we would have that harmony they seek, even if the religion was false. If all religions are from the same God and there are disagreements (of which there are many) than whose to say that one is to go. I wonder which one this would be? Who decides? I won't leave you guessing, the only ones that would not co-operate with this type of surrender into milk toast would be Christians. Why? Because we believe there is absolute truth and there is falsehood. If we stand to our convictions we can't compromise what Christ taught."
I could end here, but reading the leaders writing from the bahai faith to me, is just like being tempted to eat a beautiful looking fruit. Look at their words, sedducing, silky, it's all air, and poison. Jesus, the son, came back in the form of His spirit at pentacost. His saving, living spirit. When did Bahaullah 'live'. He ONLY died - DEATH IS SIN. Oh, and of course Bahaullah was BORN INTO SIN. Jesus, of course, was not because of How He came to Earth, through a virgin, Mary.
Sunday, 21 June 2009
Part 2 b - My brother believes in a false prophet
Further notes to add to part 2 - "Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits"means that we souldn't believe everything we hear just because someone says it is a message inspired by God. there are many ways to test teachers to see if their message is truly from the Lord. One is to check to see if their words match what God says in the Bible, the living word. Other tests include their commitment to the body of believers, their life-style, and the fruit of their ministry. But the MOST important test of all, says John, is what they believe about Christ. Do they teach that Jesus is fully god and fully man? Our world i s filled with voices claiming to speak for God. Give them these tests to see if they are indeed speaking God's truth. Are they Bahais? Nope, they fall, sadly on the Most Important hurdle.
My brother believes in a false teacher part 2
Last night, I explained to my Christian friend, my brother doesn't acknowledge Jesus is God fully, and man fully, but he just goes to explain how Bahai faith is "true". My brother says "Jesus is true and he believes in the bible, that it is true and just a question of interpretation. " He asks me for my understanding of what he believes.
Because the spirit of Jesus, God's Holy Spirit, is in me and guiding me now that I am born again; gave me new life, I can see clearly that my brother is standing outside of Jesus. My friend reconfirmed what I know - "Yes, Sarah, Look at 1 John 4 v.2:" 1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."
My brother would disagree...he says, Oh, but look at the 'fruit' I produce (have you learned about the fruit from the tree in Genesis - did it look bad?" My brother says - Look at my son - isn't he fruit - from my beliefs. I would agree that my brother's son is a lovely person and God is big enough to give love abundantly to those who aren't Christ followers. God works in all. My brother's son is no better than the 'fruit' produced by my non-Christian twin sister. All our siblings sons and daughters are lovely people. So this does not differentiate anything. See, this is what is says in my notes (NIV):
Most of the eyewitnesses to Jesus' ministry had died by the time John composed this letter. (1 John). some of the second- or thir generation Christians began to have doubts about what they had been taught about Jesus. Some Christians with a Greek background had a hard time believing that jesus was human as well as divine, because in Platonic thought the spirit was all-important. The body was only a prison from which one desired to escape. Heresies developed from a uniting of this kind of Platonic throught and Christianity.
A particularly widespread false teaching , later called Docetism (from a Greek word meaning "to seem"), held that Jesus was actually a spirit who only appeared to have a body. In reality he cast no shadow and left no footprints; he was God but not man. Another heretical teaching, related to Gnosticism (from a Greek word meaning "knowldge") held that all physical matter was evil, the spirit was good and only the intellectually enlightened could enjoy the benefits of religion. Both groups found it hard to believe in a Saviour who was fully human.
John answers these false teachers as an eyewitness to Jesus' life on earth. he saw Jesus, talked with him, touched him - he knew that Jesus was more than mere spirit. In the very first sentence of his letter, john established that Jesus had been alive before the world began and also that he lived as a man among men and women. In other words he was both divine and human.
Through the centuries, many hetetics have denied that Jesus was both God and man. In John's day people had trouble believing he was human; today more people have problems seeing him as God, But jesus' divine-human nature is a pivotal issue of Christianity. Before you accept what religious teachers say about any topic LISTEN carefully to what they believe about JESUS. To deny either his divinity or his humanity is to consider him less than Christ, the Saviour.
The Bahai faith dismisses the pivotal point here, they jump over it like a small hurdle and lollack in a balmy world of softness, light, 'good fruit', peace, 'understanding', unity in their own bubble - not God's heart in them.
Reading more about the Bahai Faith it physically makes me feel nauseous. I do understand where they are coming from. They are locked inside a bubble with their own reasoning. Jesus, as the divine son of God, lived here on Earth - God planned it from the begining. He is the author, creator God and the only way you can see it is to be obedient to the truth and have His spirit inside you. You are dead, if you don't. I didn't understand and I really wanted NOT to know Jesus at one time, I tried to resist, but then I surrendered and something supernatural happened to me. I am not the only one. I love my brother and if you are a Christian I ask you to pray for him and his family. May be one day, Jesus will make him see.
My brother asks me: "Would you agree that the spirit of Jesus' teachings: is to strive for peace, to lead a good life and be accepting to peoples of all beliefs. Would the Jesus you believe in object to this from Baha'u'llah: "Oh peoples of the world! Consort with the followers of religions in a spirit of friendship and fellowship". I can have friendship with my brother - more than that - love. The love of God. But fellowship, though I understand my brother, is not possible, I am not able, because I follow THE ONE whom He sent.
Because the spirit of Jesus, God's Holy Spirit, is in me and guiding me now that I am born again; gave me new life, I can see clearly that my brother is standing outside of Jesus. My friend reconfirmed what I know - "Yes, Sarah, Look at 1 John 4 v.2:" 1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."
My brother would disagree...he says, Oh, but look at the 'fruit' I produce (have you learned about the fruit from the tree in Genesis - did it look bad?" My brother says - Look at my son - isn't he fruit - from my beliefs. I would agree that my brother's son is a lovely person and God is big enough to give love abundantly to those who aren't Christ followers. God works in all. My brother's son is no better than the 'fruit' produced by my non-Christian twin sister. All our siblings sons and daughters are lovely people. So this does not differentiate anything. See, this is what is says in my notes (NIV):
Most of the eyewitnesses to Jesus' ministry had died by the time John composed this letter. (1 John). some of the second- or thir generation Christians began to have doubts about what they had been taught about Jesus. Some Christians with a Greek background had a hard time believing that jesus was human as well as divine, because in Platonic thought the spirit was all-important. The body was only a prison from which one desired to escape. Heresies developed from a uniting of this kind of Platonic throught and Christianity.
A particularly widespread false teaching , later called Docetism (from a Greek word meaning "to seem"), held that Jesus was actually a spirit who only appeared to have a body. In reality he cast no shadow and left no footprints; he was God but not man. Another heretical teaching, related to Gnosticism (from a Greek word meaning "knowldge") held that all physical matter was evil, the spirit was good and only the intellectually enlightened could enjoy the benefits of religion. Both groups found it hard to believe in a Saviour who was fully human.
John answers these false teachers as an eyewitness to Jesus' life on earth. he saw Jesus, talked with him, touched him - he knew that Jesus was more than mere spirit. In the very first sentence of his letter, john established that Jesus had been alive before the world began and also that he lived as a man among men and women. In other words he was both divine and human.
Through the centuries, many hetetics have denied that Jesus was both God and man. In John's day people had trouble believing he was human; today more people have problems seeing him as God, But jesus' divine-human nature is a pivotal issue of Christianity. Before you accept what religious teachers say about any topic LISTEN carefully to what they believe about JESUS. To deny either his divinity or his humanity is to consider him less than Christ, the Saviour.
The Bahai faith dismisses the pivotal point here, they jump over it like a small hurdle and lollack in a balmy world of softness, light, 'good fruit', peace, 'understanding', unity in their own bubble - not God's heart in them.
Reading more about the Bahai Faith it physically makes me feel nauseous. I do understand where they are coming from. They are locked inside a bubble with their own reasoning. Jesus, as the divine son of God, lived here on Earth - God planned it from the begining. He is the author, creator God and the only way you can see it is to be obedient to the truth and have His spirit inside you. You are dead, if you don't. I didn't understand and I really wanted NOT to know Jesus at one time, I tried to resist, but then I surrendered and something supernatural happened to me. I am not the only one. I love my brother and if you are a Christian I ask you to pray for him and his family. May be one day, Jesus will make him see.
My brother asks me: "Would you agree that the spirit of Jesus' teachings: is to strive for peace, to lead a good life and be accepting to peoples of all beliefs. Would the Jesus you believe in object to this from Baha'u'llah: "Oh peoples of the world! Consort with the followers of religions in a spirit of friendship and fellowship". I can have friendship with my brother - more than that - love. The love of God. But fellowship, though I understand my brother, is not possible, I am not able, because I follow THE ONE whom He sent.
Saturday, 20 June 2009
My brother follows a false teacher Part 1
My brother is a believer and follower of Baha'u'llah and several times we have clashed in our beliefs. I love him dearly, as a sister and friend. He is quite happy for me to have my beliefs, but I AM NOT happy for him to believe what He believes, nor any other non-believer. And I pray for all those close to me in relationship - as brothers, sister, and son AND SO MANY OTHERS!. That they may know Him as the way, the truth and the life.
I take this opportunity as a platform to express both mine and my husband's viewpoints, under the guidance of our Lord Jesus Christ, I pray.
The bible clearly states: "1Pet 3:15- But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear.
2 Tim 4:2- Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.
2 Tim 2:24-26- And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will."
The link above is from a website written by Mike Oppenheimer to counter attack false teachings.
I am grateful for my brother sending me a book entitled "Christ's new name." because it gives us a chance to defend our faith and point out the subtleties and false teachings and arise every step as you read. We flicked to page16 talking about Elijah returning to herald the coming of the lord King James BibleBehold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:"
Now, this "Christ's New Name" book suggests "Strangely", even John declared that he was not Elijah - which tells us pretty plainly that John himself, states He wasn't Elijah - but the Ba'hais twist it up and go on to say, well Jesus said John was Elijah. They are reading from a passage in Matthew: American Standard VersionAnd if ye are willing to receive it, this is Elijah, that is to come." - Why, yes, you think Jesus is saying John is Elija here - BUT he is using it as a turn of phrase. He says this because recently he has lost his good, close friend John to an evil ruler, Herod, whose wife persuaded to him to cut of John's head and put it on a platter. Jesus was making parallels to Elijahs time when the Evil King Ahab and his idol worshipping evil woman Jezzobel persecuted Elijah. The New International Version translates it with clear meaning: New International Version (©1984) And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come." Subtle isn't it - note THE Elijah..... can you see? Let me quote the notes in the N I V: "John was NOT a resurrected Elijah, but he took on Elijah's prophetic ROLE - boldly confronting sin and pointing people to God (Malachi 3:1. See Elijah's Profile in 1 Kings 18.)
King James BibleBehold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
This book: "Christ's New Name" must be read and refuted by more Christians. Another part it says, (I Paraphrase) the Jews didn't acknowledge the Messiah (both mentioned in The Bible)in the same way Baha'u'llah is not recognised by the Christians today. We will all know when Jesus comes the second time when 'every knee shall bow'.
I take this opportunity as a platform to express both mine and my husband's viewpoints, under the guidance of our Lord Jesus Christ, I pray.
The bible clearly states: "1Pet 3:15- But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear.
2 Tim 4:2- Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.
2 Tim 2:24-26- And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will."
The link above is from a website written by Mike Oppenheimer to counter attack false teachings.
I am grateful for my brother sending me a book entitled "Christ's new name." because it gives us a chance to defend our faith and point out the subtleties and false teachings and arise every step as you read. We flicked to page16 talking about Elijah returning to herald the coming of the lord King James BibleBehold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:"
Now, this "Christ's New Name" book suggests "Strangely", even John declared that he was not Elijah - which tells us pretty plainly that John himself, states He wasn't Elijah - but the Ba'hais twist it up and go on to say, well Jesus said John was Elijah. They are reading from a passage in Matthew: American Standard VersionAnd if ye are willing to receive it, this is Elijah, that is to come." - Why, yes, you think Jesus is saying John is Elija here - BUT he is using it as a turn of phrase. He says this because recently he has lost his good, close friend John to an evil ruler, Herod, whose wife persuaded to him to cut of John's head and put it on a platter. Jesus was making parallels to Elijahs time when the Evil King Ahab and his idol worshipping evil woman Jezzobel persecuted Elijah. The New International Version translates it with clear meaning: New International Version (©1984) And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come." Subtle isn't it - note THE Elijah..... can you see? Let me quote the notes in the N I V: "John was NOT a resurrected Elijah, but he took on Elijah's prophetic ROLE - boldly confronting sin and pointing people to God (Malachi 3:1. See Elijah's Profile in 1 Kings 18.)
King James BibleBehold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
This book: "Christ's New Name" must be read and refuted by more Christians. Another part it says, (I Paraphrase) the Jews didn't acknowledge the Messiah (both mentioned in The Bible)in the same way Baha'u'llah is not recognised by the Christians today. We will all know when Jesus comes the second time when 'every knee shall bow'.
Friday, 5 June 2009
LIFE FOR EVER
John 14; 4-6 “And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
This 'caught' and, 'captured' me a few weeks ago, that Jesus is LIFE, living, alive for eternity. Jesus has no part in death, though He died for his father so we might live too. And I really got it again this morning.
I woke up, reluctant to rise, for it was raining - it has been sunny and calm for a good while, then, this morning; It was cold, raining and generally unpleasant. But God did not create the Earth so that it would rain. Rain happened after Adam's sin. When God created the Earth, he branded it "VERY GOOD", and there was no rain then. Plants absorbed their moisture from the Earth underground and obtained moisture from the steamy atmosphere. But to start afresh, because of all the sin that had spread about the world, He brought the flood and gave His man a second chance. (We know He is the God of the second chance). He left a rainbow as a sign He would not bring that kind of destruction to the Earth again. A sign, in rememberence of Him and He alone is OUR God to worship. That's why He sent His son, Jesus, and His spirit to live in us, to tell us in detail what, where, who, and why He is; so we might be obedient to Him. He has allowed us to know Him, if we choose to, once He has called us OUT, to learn more about Him through His word (THE BIBLE), and gain His wisdom, His TRUTH, His WAY and His Life.
That's right, NO death, no darkness, no sin, no evil - He turns away from ALL that is blemished with the slightest soil.
Jesus has us covered by His blood, by what He did on the cross.
I am so thankful for this - and know it! May I always be guided by His light. May you come and join in! I pray!
Jesus, He is gathering us together, all over the world. We are in despair sometimes, listening to the cries of people who do not yet truly know Him. They can have peace in their hearts. It takes what seems like a massive jump. Well JUMP - go on, SURRENDER!! - you actually have nothing to loose, only death. Once you've done it you will rejoice, be filled with JOY and peace. You will know compassion. You will know His saving grace. And there are others you can share it with. We need to remain alert and watchful, praying we will not be caught out by people who think they know, and don't - even some vicars, ministers and preists - i've met them. But we will never be trapped because we know the One who guides us. Our prayers four ourselve sand each other, are needed to stay in situ. To stay focused in Jesus. Let Him control you, speak to you and live in you, because He is THE LIFE. AMEN
This 'caught' and, 'captured' me a few weeks ago, that Jesus is LIFE, living, alive for eternity. Jesus has no part in death, though He died for his father so we might live too. And I really got it again this morning.
I woke up, reluctant to rise, for it was raining - it has been sunny and calm for a good while, then, this morning; It was cold, raining and generally unpleasant. But God did not create the Earth so that it would rain. Rain happened after Adam's sin. When God created the Earth, he branded it "VERY GOOD", and there was no rain then. Plants absorbed their moisture from the Earth underground and obtained moisture from the steamy atmosphere. But to start afresh, because of all the sin that had spread about the world, He brought the flood and gave His man a second chance. (We know He is the God of the second chance). He left a rainbow as a sign He would not bring that kind of destruction to the Earth again. A sign, in rememberence of Him and He alone is OUR God to worship. That's why He sent His son, Jesus, and His spirit to live in us, to tell us in detail what, where, who, and why He is; so we might be obedient to Him. He has allowed us to know Him, if we choose to, once He has called us OUT, to learn more about Him through His word (THE BIBLE), and gain His wisdom, His TRUTH, His WAY and His Life.
That's right, NO death, no darkness, no sin, no evil - He turns away from ALL that is blemished with the slightest soil.
Jesus has us covered by His blood, by what He did on the cross.
I am so thankful for this - and know it! May I always be guided by His light. May you come and join in! I pray!
Jesus, He is gathering us together, all over the world. We are in despair sometimes, listening to the cries of people who do not yet truly know Him. They can have peace in their hearts. It takes what seems like a massive jump. Well JUMP - go on, SURRENDER!! - you actually have nothing to loose, only death. Once you've done it you will rejoice, be filled with JOY and peace. You will know compassion. You will know His saving grace. And there are others you can share it with. We need to remain alert and watchful, praying we will not be caught out by people who think they know, and don't - even some vicars, ministers and preists - i've met them. But we will never be trapped because we know the One who guides us. Our prayers four ourselve sand each other, are needed to stay in situ. To stay focused in Jesus. Let Him control you, speak to you and live in you, because He is THE LIFE. AMEN
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